Discussion:
Remailers and similar systems are not secure
(too old to reply)
Mok-Kong Shen
2013-07-04 19:50:02 UTC
Permalink
As I argued recently elsewhere, the security of remailers is poor for
the following rather straightforward reason: If one sends an email through
a chain of remailer nodes, the email of course has to go initially to
the first
node of that chain. On arrival at the router of that node, the entire
email (the whole data packge, i.e. more than what one sees in the normal
email
window) contains the IP-address of the sender in the clear. So, if
the agencies tap at that location, or more conviently at the provider
side of the said node, then the sender of the email will be known to them
and this alone is a serious breach of security. (Whether the agencies could
eventually somehow also gain more information than that is not essential
for
the current context.)

One could on the other hand send materials from callshops or internetcafes,
thus not using one's own IP-address, and send encrypted stuffs (preferrably
with authentication) to such
Usenet groups as alt.anonymous.messages and let the recipient collect them
according e.g. to certain agreed upon characteristics in the subject
lines at
similar neutral locations. This way, both partners remain genuinely not
trackable.

M. K. Shen
Lutz Donnerhacke
2013-07-04 21:12:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by Mok-Kong Shen
On arrival at the router of that node, the entire
email (the whole data packge, i.e. more than what one sees in the normal
email window) contains the IP-address of the sender in the clear.
You did not understand the basic concepts of remailers or onion routing.
You do spread FUD.
Mok-Kong Shen
2013-07-06 20:55:12 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lutz Donnerhacke
Post by Mok-Kong Shen
On arrival at the router of that node, the entire
email (the whole data packge, i.e. more than what one sees in the normal
email window) contains the IP-address of the sender in the clear.
You did not understand the basic concepts of remailers or onion routing.
You do spread FUD.
But you didn't provide even one single concrete argument to support
your claim.

M. K. Shen
Mok-Kong Shen
2013-07-26 09:01:52 UTC
Permalink
I like to say that there had been recently a rather extensive
discussion on the topic in de.comp.security.misc in a thread
entitled "Low-Tech gegen High-Tech" initiated by me on 02.07.2013.

M. K. Shen

Loading...