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BITPERM, a simple encryption scheme (with authentication) based on bits,permutation and dynamic bytes substitution
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Mok-Kong Shen
2015-06-13 08:01:44 UTC
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The software is available at:

http://s13.zetaboards.com/Crypto/topic/7404266/1/

M. K. Shen
William Unruh
2015-06-13 15:49:52 UTC
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Post by Mok-Kong Shen
http://s13.zetaboards.com/Crypto/topic/7404266/1/
Why should anyone care? And what digital encrytption scheme is not based
on bits, permutations, and dynamic byte substitution (whatever that
means). You still seem to think that the world is crying out for an
encryption scheme, any scheme, no matter how badly designed, rather than
being awash in really really good schemes. Availability of encryption is
not a problem. Even availability of good schemes.
Now if you had spent years studying the current good schemes, were
highly experienced in discovering the weaknesses of really good schemes
and had come up with a novel scheme that amelioratied those weaknesses
which remaining blazingly fast (since encrypting GB of data is not
unusual these days) and did not introduce its own weakensses, someone
might be interested. But an amateur, resistent to learning , with zero
expertese or experience-- why should anyone care.
Mok-Kong Shen
2015-06-14 17:55:46 UTC
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Post by William Unruh
Post by Mok-Kong Shen
http://s13.zetaboards.com/Crypto/topic/7404266/1/
Why should anyone care? And what digital encrytption scheme is not based
on bits, permutations, and dynamic byte substitution (whatever that
means). You still seem to think that the world is crying out for an
encryption scheme, any scheme, no matter how badly designed, rather than
being awash in really really good schemes. Availability of encryption is
not a problem. Even availability of good schemes.
Now if you had spent years studying the current good schemes, were
highly experienced in discovering the weaknesses of really good schemes
and had come up with a novel scheme that amelioratied those weaknesses
which remaining blazingly fast (since encrypting GB of data is not
unusual these days) and did not introduce its own weakensses, someone
might be interested. But an amateur, resistent to learning , with zero
expertese or experience-- why should anyone care.
Mmm. If you "absolutely" didn't care "at all", you wouldn't spend
your precious time and effort to wrote a long paragraph, assuming
that you are a person that thinks reasonably and hence, in particular,
economizes one's resources. You simply want to take an opportunity to
spread defamations. That's it! And still remember that you had once
even written that one needs a "credential" to post to newsgroups of
the Internet??

M. K. Shen
William Unruh
2015-06-14 18:56:48 UTC
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Post by Mok-Kong Shen
Post by William Unruh
Post by Mok-Kong Shen
http://s13.zetaboards.com/Crypto/topic/7404266/1/
Why should anyone care? And what digital encrytption scheme is not based
on bits, permutations, and dynamic byte substitution (whatever that
means). You still seem to think that the world is crying out for an
encryption scheme, any scheme, no matter how badly designed, rather than
being awash in really really good schemes. Availability of encryption is
not a problem. Even availability of good schemes.
Now if you had spent years studying the current good schemes, were
highly experienced in discovering the weaknesses of really good schemes
and had come up with a novel scheme that amelioratied those weaknesses
which remaining blazingly fast (since encrypting GB of data is not
unusual these days) and did not introduce its own weakensses, someone
might be interested. But an amateur, resistent to learning , with zero
expertese or experience-- why should anyone care.
Mmm. If you "absolutely" didn't care "at all", you wouldn't spend
your precious time and effort to wrote a long paragraph, assuming
that you are a person that thinks reasonably and hence, in particular,
economizes one's resources. You simply want to take an opportunity to
spread defamations. That's it! And still remember that you had once
even written that one needs a "credential" to post to newsgroups of
the Internet??
Nope, never said that.
Mok-Kong Shen
2015-06-14 22:42:51 UTC
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Post by William Unruh
Post by Mok-Kong Shen
Post by William Unruh
Post by Mok-Kong Shen
http://s13.zetaboards.com/Crypto/topic/7404266/1/
Why should anyone care? And what digital encrytption scheme is not based
on bits, permutations, and dynamic byte substitution (whatever that
means). You still seem to think that the world is crying out for an
encryption scheme, any scheme, no matter how badly designed, rather than
being awash in really really good schemes. Availability of encryption is
not a problem. Even availability of good schemes.
Now if you had spent years studying the current good schemes, were
highly experienced in discovering the weaknesses of really good schemes
and had come up with a novel scheme that amelioratied those weaknesses
which remaining blazingly fast (since encrypting GB of data is not
unusual these days) and did not introduce its own weakensses, someone
might be interested. But an amateur, resistent to learning , with zero
expertese or experience-- why should anyone care.
Mmm. If you "absolutely" didn't care "at all", you wouldn't spend
your precious time and effort to wrote a long paragraph, assuming
that you are a person that thinks reasonably and hence, in particular,
economizes one's resources. You simply want to take an opportunity to
spread defamations. That's it! And still remember that you had once
even written that one needs a "credential" to post to newsgroups of
the Internet??
Nope, never said that.
You wrote: "And what are your credentials to make anyone believe that
your software has even the slightest chances of being interesting?"

In the course of time I have got in a couple of groups different sorts
of defamations from some people. Once someone claimed that he couldn't
know at all in which language I was posting. What's very interesting is
IMHO the fact that he later did excahnge quite a number of posts with
me, apparently without any language difficulties. Another time I was
called a certain type of non-human being.

I find it difficult to understand why certain people couldn't confine
their critiques to objective and concrete ones or else simply not
bother to write any critiques at all in case the objects to be
criticized were all rubbish in their opinion. (An article I read did
give one seemingly plausible explanation for that, but I hesitate
to reproduce it here in order not to cause unnecessary discussions
or debates.)

M. K. Shen








rather interesting I
William Unruh
2015-06-14 23:45:57 UTC
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Post by Mok-Kong Shen
Post by William Unruh
Post by Mok-Kong Shen
Post by William Unruh
Post by Mok-Kong Shen
http://s13.zetaboards.com/Crypto/topic/7404266/1/
Why should anyone care? And what digital encrytption scheme is not based
on bits, permutations, and dynamic byte substitution (whatever that
means). You still seem to think that the world is crying out for an
encryption scheme, any scheme, no matter how badly designed, rather than
being awash in really really good schemes. Availability of encryption is
not a problem. Even availability of good schemes.
Now if you had spent years studying the current good schemes, were
highly experienced in discovering the weaknesses of really good schemes
and had come up with a novel scheme that amelioratied those weaknesses
which remaining blazingly fast (since encrypting GB of data is not
unusual these days) and did not introduce its own weakensses, someone
might be interested. But an amateur, resistent to learning , with zero
expertese or experience-- why should anyone care.
Mmm. If you "absolutely" didn't care "at all", you wouldn't spend
your precious time and effort to wrote a long paragraph, assuming
that you are a person that thinks reasonably and hence, in particular,
economizes one's resources. You simply want to take an opportunity to
spread defamations. That's it! And still remember that you had once
even written that one needs a "credential" to post to newsgroups of
the Internet??
Nope, never said that.
You wrote: "And what are your credentials to make anyone believe that
your software has even the slightest chances of being interesting?"
And your comprension of English has not improved. That asks for your
credentials for creating encryption software, not for posting on
newsgroups.
Post by Mok-Kong Shen
In the course of time I have got in a couple of groups different sorts
of defamations from some people. Once someone claimed that he couldn't.
know at all in which language I was posting. What's very interesting is
IMHO the fact that he later did excahnge quite a number of posts with
me, apparently without any language difficulties. Another time I was
called a certain type of non-human being.
Not by me.
Post by Mok-Kong Shen
I find it difficult to understand why certain people couldn't confine
their critiques to objective and concrete ones or else simply not
bother to write any critiques at all in case the objects to be
criticized were all rubbish in their opinion.
It is you who posted a link to your new cryptography here, without
making the least effort to tell us what was in that link or why anyone
should read it. For all we know it is malware. Your only description of
it differentiates it in no way from a vast quantity of encryption, both
strong and horrible.

If you want to be taken seriously, you need to present at least a
synopsis of what makes your scheme special and different, and why anyone
should bother looking at it. But then you have been told that time and
again.
Post by Mok-Kong Shen
(An article I read did
give one seemingly plausible explanation for that, but I hesitate
to reproduce it here in order not to cause unnecessary discussions
or debates.)
M. K. Shen
rather interesting I
Mok-Kong Shen
2015-06-16 07:57:34 UTC
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Post by William Unruh
Post by Mok-Kong Shen
Post by William Unruh
Post by Mok-Kong Shen
Post by William Unruh
Post by Mok-Kong Shen
http://s13.zetaboards.com/Crypto/topic/7404266/1/
Why should anyone care? And what digital encrytption scheme is not based
on bits, permutations, and dynamic byte substitution (whatever that
means). You still seem to think that the world is crying out for an
encryption scheme, any scheme, no matter how badly designed, rather than
being awash in really really good schemes. Availability of encryption is
not a problem. Even availability of good schemes.
Now if you had spent years studying the current good schemes, were
highly experienced in discovering the weaknesses of really good schemes
and had come up with a novel scheme that amelioratied those weaknesses
which remaining blazingly fast (since encrypting GB of data is not
unusual these days) and did not introduce its own weakensses, someone
might be interested. But an amateur, resistent to learning , with zero
expertese or experience-- why should anyone care.
Mmm. If you "absolutely" didn't care "at all", you wouldn't spend
your precious time and effort to wrote a long paragraph, assuming
that you are a person that thinks reasonably and hence, in particular,
economizes one's resources. You simply want to take an opportunity to
spread defamations. That's it! And still remember that you had once
even written that one needs a "credential" to post to newsgroups of
the Internet??
Nope, never said that.
You wrote: "And what are your credentials to make anyone believe that
your software has even the slightest chances of being interesting?"
And your comprension of English has not improved. That asks for your
credentials for creating encryption software, not for posting on
newsgroups.
I believe there are lots of people doing comparable work who are
non-natives of English and whose English proficiency is not much better
than mine. Does one ever need Queen's English to work in crypto??
Post by William Unruh
Post by Mok-Kong Shen
In the course of time I have got in a couple of groups different sorts
of defamations from some people. Once someone claimed that he couldn't.
know at all in which language I was posting. What's very interesting is
IMHO the fact that he later did excahnge quite a number of posts with
me, apparently without any language difficulties. Another time I was
called a certain type of non-human being.
Not by me.
Did I say so??
Post by William Unruh
Post by Mok-Kong Shen
I find it difficult to understand why certain people couldn't confine
their critiques to objective and concrete ones or else simply not
bother to write any critiques at all in case the objects to be
criticized were all rubbish in their opinion.
It is you who posted a link to your new cryptography here, without
making the least effort to tell us what was in that link or why anyone
should read it. For all we know it is malware. Your only description of
it differentiates it in no way from a vast quantity of encryption, both
strong and horrible.
If you want to be taken seriously, you need to present at least a
synopsis of what makes your scheme special and different, and why anyone
should bother looking at it. But then you have been told that time and
again.
I presume that a reader of my code, after reading a sketch of its
design in the Prologue, can already see to what extent my scheme
distinguishes itself from those that are familiar to him, assuming of
course that he knows quite some other encryption schemes.

M. K. Shen
Post by William Unruh
Post by Mok-Kong Shen
(An article I read did
give one seemingly plausible explanation for that, but I hesitate
to reproduce it here in order not to cause unnecessary discussions
or debates.)
M. K. Shen
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